Legislature(2019 - 2020)BUTROVICH 205

02/13/2020 09:00 AM Senate EDUCATION

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09:02:59 AM SB6
10:29:42 AM Adjourn
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          SB 6-PRE-K/ELEM ED PROGRAMS/FUNDING; READING                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:02:59 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEVENS  announced the  consideration of SPONSOR  SUBSTITUTE                                                              
FOR  SENATE  BILL NO.  6,  "An  Act relating  to  early  education                                                              
programs  provided by school  districts;  relating to funding  for                                                              
early  education   programs;  relating   to  the  duties   of  the                                                              
Department  of Education  and  Early Development;  establishing  a                                                              
reading intervention  program for public school  students enrolled                                                              
in  grades kindergarten  through  three; establishing  a  literacy                                                              
program  in the  Department of  Education  and Early  Development;                                                              
and providing for an effective date."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He stated  his desire to  move the bill  from committee  and asked                                                              
the sponsor, Senator Begich, to comment.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:03:27 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BEGICH stated  that SB  6 has emerged  from its  original                                                              
inception  as a  voluntary,  universal pre-K  bill  to the  Alaska                                                              
Reads Act.  One of the  key components  of its evolution  has been                                                              
the ongoing  partnership with the  governor and the  commissioner.                                                              
Over  the last  six hearings,  a  number of  provisions have  been                                                              
added.  He  has an  agreement  with  the  governor that  the  only                                                              
amendments he would  support in the committee substitute  would be                                                              
the amendments  supported by  himself and  the governor.  There is                                                              
at  least one  amendment  today  that he,  the  governor, and  the                                                              
commissioner are in agreement with.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH  said the committee is  trying to move a  bill that                                                              
both  moves education  policy forward  but  also has  a chance  of                                                              
becoming  law.  He  said  he  is   looking  forward  to  a  robust                                                              
discussion of  any amendments, but  he will express  opposition to                                                              
amendments that  he and the  governor did  not agree to.  He asked                                                              
the  committee to  respect  that arrangement.  He  said his  staff                                                              
will speak  to the  committee substitute,  which has 34  different                                                              
changes.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS   solicited  a  motion   to  adopt   the  committee                                                              
substitute (CS) for SSSB 6.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:06:41 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES moved to adopt the CS for SSSB 6, work order 31-                                                                 
LS0159\G, as the working document.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:06:51 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEVENS objected for purposes of discussion and asked Mr.                                                                 
Lamkin to present the sectional.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:06:55 AM                                                                                                                    
TIM LAMKIN, Staff, Senator Gary Stevens, Alaska State                                                                           
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, delivered the following sectional                                                                  
for CSSSSB 6, version G:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 1: Assigns  a title to the act as the  Alaska Reads                                                                   
     Act.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  2: AS  14.03.060(e) Is  amended  to recognize  the                                                                   
     inclusion of  early education programs as being  part of                                                                   
     an   elementary   school,    specifically   head   start                                                                   
     programs,   at  the  approval   of  the  Department   of                                                                   
     Education and Early Development (DEED).                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  3:  AS  14.03.072(a)   is  amended  to  include  a                                                                   
     requirement  for  school  districts  to  inform  parents                                                                   
     specifically of  reading intervention services  that are                                                                   
     offered.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 4: AS  14.03.078(a), relating to  school districts'                                                                   
     requirement  to  provide  annual   progress  reports  to                                                                   
     DEED,  is  amended  to include  data  for  K-3  students                                                                   
     involved  in the  AK  Reads Act  as  described below  in                                                                   
     Section 7, as well as including data relating to:                                                                          
     (8) how  districts are using  their in-service  days for                                                                   
     professional development; and                                                                                              
     (9)  the use  and efficacy  of the  Parents as  Teachers                                                                   
     program as described in Section 8, below.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  5: AS  14.03.080(d),  relating  to minimum  school                                                                   
     age,  sets June 1  as the  new date  by which a  student                                                                   
     must  be  age  5 in  order  to  enter  kindergarten  the                                                                   
     following Fall  term. This subsection also allows  for a                                                                   
     waiver for  a child to  enter kindergarten earlier  than                                                                   
     age 5 if they pass an approved exam.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.   6:   AS  14.03.080(g)   is   a   new   subsection                                                                   
     establishing that  a four or five-year-old,  who has not                                                                   
     attended  kindergarten, is eligible  to attend  a public                                                                   
     Pre-K program.                                                                                                             
9:09:50 AM                                                                                                                    
     Sec. 7: AS  14.03.120(h) is added to  establishes annual                                                                   
     reporting  requirements for  school districts  regarding                                                                   
     student   performance  metrics   in  grades  K-3.   This                                                                   
     includes  data  for  the  number  2  and  percentage  of                                                                   
     students  in  K-3  who are  proficient  at  grade  level                                                                   
     reading and  are retained from  advancing to  their next                                                                   
     grade level for cause.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 8:  AS.03.410 is  created to  codify a state  Pre-K                                                                   
     program,  providing   a  stair-step,  three-year   grant                                                                   
     program  to  provide  training and  assistance  to  low-                                                                   
     performing  school districts  in developing their  local                                                                   
     Pre-K  program.  Over  six   fiscal  years,  all  school                                                                   
     districts are offered the opportunity to participate.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     14.03.420  codifies   the  Parents  as   Teachers  (PAT)                                                                   
     program  as  a program  of  the  state within  DEED  and                                                                   
     specifies criteria  for PAT to demonstrate  its efficacy                                                                   
     in  supporting school  districts  with Pre-K  education.                                                                   
     Sec. 9:  14.07.020(a), relating  to the duties  of DEED,                                                                   
     is amended  to add  its general  supervision over  Pre-K                                                                   
     programs in  the state. This section also  adds the DEED                                                                   
     duty of  (18) establishing  a state reading  and reading                                                                   
     intervention  program   as  described  in   Section  18,                                                                   
     below.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 9:  14.07.020(a), relating  to the duties  of DEED,                                                                   
     is amended  to add  its general  supervision over  Pre-K                                                                   
     programs in  the state. This section also  adds the DEED                                                                   
     duty of  (18) establishing  a state reading  and reading                                                                   
     intervention  program   as  described  in   Section  18,                                                                   
     below.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  10: AS  14.07.020(c), relating  to the  definition                                                                   
     of  "early education  program"  to mean  an  educational                                                                   
     program  for  children  ages  3  to  5.  The  3-year-old                                                                   
     students  are  not included  in  the program  this  bill                                                                   
     proposes  but  are included  in  the statute  to  ensure                                                                   
     they are  not excluded from  existing State  and Federal                                                                   
     programs.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:12:13 AM                                                                                                                    
     Sec.  11:  AS  14.07.050,  relating  to  locally-decided                                                                   
     selection  of textbooks,  allows DEED  to make  textbook                                                                   
     selections  for  reading  material  related  to  reading                                                                   
     intervention programs described in Section 18, below.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  12: AS  14.07.165(a),  relating to  the duties  of                                                                   
     the  state  board  of education  and  early  development                                                                   
     (Board),   adds  to  those   duties  a  requirement   to                                                                   
     establish  regulations  for  PreK standards,  and  Pre-K                                                                   
     teacher certification requirements.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  13:  AS  14.17.500,   relating  to  calculating  a                                                                   
     school  district's average  daily  membership (ADM)  for                                                                   
     budgeting  purposes,   adds  (d)  to  specify   a  Pre-K                                                                   
     student is counted as a half-time student.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  14:  AS 14.17.905(a),  relating  to  counting  the                                                                   
     number of schools  in a district, is amended  to include                                                                   
     Pre-K students  as being part  of an elementary  school,                                                                   
     and provides  for an exception  as described  in Section                                                                   
     15, below.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:13:26 AM                                                                                                                    
     Sec. 15: AS  14.17.905, relating to counting  the number                                                                   
     of  schools in  a district,  adds (d)  to avoid  letting                                                                   
     school   districts  count   Pre-K   students  twice   in                                                                   
     Foundation  Formula ADM  calculations.  In other  words,                                                                   
     Foundation  funding  would  only be  provided  to  those                                                                   
     districts that  are not already being funded  by another                                                                   
     state or federal Pre-K program.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.   16:  AS   14.20.015(c),   relating  to   teaching                                                                   
     certificate  reciprocity for  teachers moving to  Alaska                                                                   
     from   out-of-state,  adds   that  such  teachers   must                                                                   
     complete  additional  reading  instruction  training  in                                                                   
     order   to   be  eligible   for   an   Alaska   teaching                                                                   
     endorsement in elementary education.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 17: AS  14.20.020, relating to general  issuance of                                                                   
     teacher certificates,  adds (l), that all  teachers must                                                                   
     complete  additional  reading  instruction  training  in                                                                   
     order to  be eligible for  an endorsement in  elementary                                                                   
     education.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:14:36 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. LAMKIN  advised that Section 18  is a major part of  the bill.                                                              
He stressed that  the section states a student  "can" be retained.                                                              
He  said  a  significant  amount  of legal  language  is  in  this                                                              
section to  carefully navigate if,  when, and how a  student might                                                              
be retained  for a second third  grade year rather  than advancing                                                              
to fourth grade.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 18:  AS 14.30 is amended  to add Article 15,  creating a                                                              
     Statewide Reading Intervention Program.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     AS 14.30.760  Directs DEED  to establish a statewide  reading                                                              
     assessment  and  screening  tool to  identify  students  with                                                              
     reading deficiencies;  assist teachers in  monitoring student                                                              
     progress  in reading  proficiency,  and  provide training  to                                                              
     teachers in reading intervention tools.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     AS 14.30.765  District Reading Intervention Services  must be                                                              
     offered by  districts for K-3  students exhibiting  a reading                                                              
     deficiency,  and be  implemented  in a  manner  to include  a                                                              
     high  amount  of  communication  between  teachers,  parents,                                                              
     administrators   and  the   student.  Considerable   detailed                                                              
     attention is  given under this  section for instances  when a                                                              
     student failing  to progress  toward reading proficiency  can                                                              
     result  in being withheld  from advancing  to the  next grade                                                              
     level.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     AS 14.30.770  Directs DEED  to establish a statewide  reading                                                              
     program,  specifically  to   assist  school  districts  in  a                                                              
     variety of ways  to affect the reading  intervention services                                                              
     described  in  AS 14.30.665,  above.  DEED shall  employ  and                                                              
     deploy  reading  specialists  to districts,  in  addition  to                                                              
     making  complementary  tools and  resources  to districts  in                                                              
     addressing student reading proficiency.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     AS 14.30.775  aligns use of  the word "district" in  this Act                                                              
     with  the   definitions  given  elsewhere  in   statute  when                                                              
     referring to a school district.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:17:08 AM                                                                                                                    
     Sec. 19:  AS 47.17.290(12), relating  to the Dept.  of Health                                                              
     and  Social   Services  (HSS),  child   protection,  includes                                                              
     "early education"(Pre-K)  program staff as  an "organization"                                                              
     required to report any sign of child abuse or neglect.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 20:  AS 14.03.410, relating  to the Pre-K  grant program                                                              
     described  in  Section 8  above,  once all  school  districts                                                              
     have  had the opportunity  to participate,  is repealed  July                                                              
     1, 2031.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  21:  Is  transition language,  directing  DEED  to  use                                                              
     2018-19  school  accountability   rankings  for  purposes  of                                                              
     determining  the first cohort  of lowest performing  schools,                                                              
     to identify their Pre-K grant eligibility for FY 21.                                                                       
     Sec. 22: Sets an effective date of July 1, 2020.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:18:13 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEVENS noted  that Senator Hughes has three  amendments and                                                              
Senator  Costello has  two. He called  on Senator  Hughes  to move                                                              
the first amendment.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:18:55 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES moved to adopt Amendment 1, G.1:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                               31-LS0159\G.1                                                                    
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                          AMENDMENT 1                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
    OFFERED IN THE SENATE                  BY SENATOR HUGHES                                                                    
     TO: CSSSSB 6 (EDC), Draft Version "G"                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 1, following "students":                                                                                      
     Insert "and teaching staff"                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:19:03 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEVENS objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES explained  that  the amendment  asks districts  to                                                              
not only  report the  number of students  per classroom,  but also                                                              
the teaching  staff to get  a sense of  the ratio. She  noted that                                                              
the committee  heard that  Florida has small  class sizes,  and it                                                              
will be  challenging for K-3  teachers who have  large classrooms.                                                              
The  committee needs  to consider  that  and gather  data to  make                                                              
policy decisions  down the road.  The districts also  might choose                                                              
to make policy decisions based on the information.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   BEGICH  said   his  staff   discussed   this  with   the                                                              
department. It  was just an oversight  that this was  not included                                                              
in the bill and he supports the addition.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:20:28 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  STEVENS  removed  his  objection  and  finding  no  further                                                              
objection, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He called on Senator Hughes to move the next amendment.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:20:41 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES made a motion to adopt Amendment 2, G.2:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                31-LS0159\G.2                                                                   
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                          AMENDMENT 2                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
    OFFERED IN THE SENATE                  BY SENATOR HUGHES                                                                    
     TO: CSSSSB 6 (EDC), Draft Version "G"                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, following line 11:                                                                                                 
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
         "* Sec. 2. The uncodified law of the State of                                                                        
     Alaska is amended by adding a new section to read:                                                                         
          LEGISLATIVE INTENT. It is the intent of the                                                                           
         legislature that each school district consider                                                                         
       prioritizing funding to reduce student-to-teaching-                                                                      
     staff ratios for grades kindergarten through three."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:20:45 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEVENS objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES  said she would  withdraw the amendment  after some                                                              
discussion,  unless   members  would  like  to  include   it.  She                                                              
acknowledged  that intent language  does not  carry the  weight of                                                              
law, but  it can have value.  The intent language would  read that                                                              
each  school  district  should consider  prioritizing  funding  to                                                              
reduce student-to-teaching  staff  ratios for grades  kindergarten                                                              
through three.  Intent language  does not  mandate that  districts                                                              
do that, but districts should have that conversation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:22:16 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COSTELLO  expressed appreciation  that the amendment  will                                                              
be withdrawn. She  said she is aware that research  indicates that                                                              
there  is  a  most  effective  class   size  and  she  hopes  that                                                              
districts will  adjust class  sizes to ones  that are  optimal for                                                              
students  as  the  address  many  other  issues.  She  said  local                                                              
control  is  important   and  the  legislature  needs   to  impose                                                              
mandates thoughtfully.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH  added that everyone  supports the idea  of smaller                                                              
class  size  and  he supports  the  intention  of  the  amendment.                                                              
However, he and  the commissioner agreed that SB 6  would not have                                                              
intent  language. At  least  it has  been put  on  the record,  he                                                              
said.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:25:01 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES  expressed  hope that  districts  will  prioritize                                                              
funding to create  smaller class sizes and increase  the chance of                                                              
success for  those students and  teachers. She said  the amendment                                                              
was in response  to concerns she  heard from a number  of teachers                                                              
across the state.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES withdrew Amendment 2, G.2.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:25:33 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEVENS asked Senator Hughes to move the next amendment.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:25:38 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES moved to adopt Amendment 3, G.6.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                31-LS0159\G.6                                                                   
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                          AMENDMENT 3                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                  BY SENATOR HUGHES                                                                   
     TO: CSSSSB 6 (EDC), DRAFT VERSION "G"                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 24, following line 2:                                                                                                 
     Insert new bill sections to read:                                                                                          
        "* Sec.  19. AS 14.30.765(c),  enacted by sec.  18 of                                                               
     this Act, is amended to read:                                                                                              
          (c)  If at any time during the school year a                                                                          
     student   in    grades   kindergarten    through   three                                                                   
     demonstrates  a  reading  deficiency,  the  district  or                                                                   
     school shall  notify the student's parents  or guardians                                                                   
     in  writing  or during  a  conference. The  district  or                                                                   
     school   shall   provide  the   student's   parents   or                                                                   
     guardians with  updates on the student's  progress every                                                                   
     two weeks  after the  initial notification. The  initial                                                                   
     notification must                                                                                                          
               (1)  be provided to the student's parents or                                                                     
     guardians  not later than  15 days after  identification                                                                   
     of the reading deficiency;                                                                                                 
               (2)  state that the district identified the                                                                      
     student  as  having  a reading  deficiency  and  that  a                                                                   
     reading  improvement plan  will be  developed under  (b)                                                                   
     of this section;                                                                                                           
               (3)  describe current services that the                                                                          
     district is providing to the student;                                                                                      
               (4)  describe the proposed evidence-based                                                                        
     reading  intervention  and   supplemental  instructional                                                                   
     services  and supports  that the  district will  provide                                                                   
     to  the  student  to  improve  the  identified  area  of                                                                   
     reading deficiency;                                                                                                        
               (5)    explain  that the  district  or  school                                                                   
     will inform  the parents or guardians in writing  of the                                                                   
     student's progress  toward grade level reading  at least                                                                   
     every two weeks;                                                                                                           
               (6)   identify strategies  for the parents  or                                                                   
     guardians  to use at  home to  help the student  succeed                                                                   
     in reading;                                                                                                                
               (7)    explain  that  if  the  student  has  a                                                                   
     reading  deficiency  at  the  end of  the  school  year,                                                                   
     unless the  student receives  an exemption under  (g) of                                                                   
     this  section   or  has  previously  been   retained  in                                                                   
     kindergarten,  grade  one, grade  two,  or grade  three,                                                                   
     the  student may be  prevented from  progressing to  the                                                                   
     next grade level under (d) of this section; and                                                                            
               (8)   explain  that a student  in grade  three                                                                   
     must [SHOULD]  demonstrate sufficient reading  skills to                                                               
     progress  to  grade  four under  (e)  of  this  section,                                                                   
     unless the  student receives  an exemption under  (g) of                                                                   
     this  section   or  has  previously  been   retained  in                                                                   
     kindergarten, grade one, grade two, or grade three.                                                                        
        *  Sec. 20. AS 14.30.765(e),  enacted  by sec. 18  of                                                                 
     this Act, is amended to read:                                                                                              
          (e)  A student in grade three must [SHOULD]                                                                       
     demonstrate  sufficient reading  skills  to progress  to                                                                   
     grade  four. A student  demonstrates sufficient  reading                                                                   
     skills for progression by                                                                                                  
               (1)    scoring  at   a  proficient  or  higher                                                                   
     achievement   level  on  the   statewide  screening   or                                                                   
     assessment   tool   or  on   the   statewide   summative                                                                   
     assessment;                                                                                                                
               (2)    achieving  an acceptable  score  on  an                                                                   
     alternative    standardized    reading   screening    or                                                                   
     assessment as determined and approved by the                                                                               
          department; or                                                                                                        
               (3)      demonstrating  mastery   of   reading                                                                   
     standards through  a student reading portfolio  based on                                                                   
     criteria established by the department."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 24, following line 15:                                                                                                
     Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                         
        "*  Sec. 24.  Sections 19  and  20 of  this Act  take                                                               
     effect July 1, 2024."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill section accordingly.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Page 24, line 16:                                                                                                          
          Delete "This"                                                                                                         
          Insert "Except as provided in sec. 24 of this                                                                         
     Act, this"                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:25:44 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEVENS objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES  stated  while she  appreciates  Senator  Begich's                                                              
fervor,   passion,   and   dedication  to   education,   and   the                                                              
commissioner's  too, legislators  are  the policy  makers. He  may                                                              
have   agreements  with   the  governor   and  commissioner,   but                                                              
legislators  have  the opportunity  during  this  process to  make                                                              
decisions about policy.  She said she knows that there  has been a                                                              
concern that  this amendment might  derail the bill. She  does not                                                              
share that  concern. Data  and information show  that this  is the                                                              
best route and  she is putting forward this amendment  because she                                                              
thinks it will  give students and teachers the  greatest chance of                                                              
success. As  the committee  has heard,  Alaska's children  are not                                                              
different  from  others  in  the  nation. It  is  not  that  their                                                              
teachers are  not as good  as other teachers  in the  nation. It's                                                              
that the system  is broken and Amendment 3, G.6,  is an attempt to                                                              
fix it.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES  explained that  the amendment  allows the  bill to                                                              
move  forward  for  three  years. She  acknowledged  that  she  is                                                              
grateful  that the  committee  substitute  allows the  recognition                                                              
program she  suggested. That  recognition  program is to  motivate                                                              
school  districts and  teachers  to bring  their  students to  the                                                              
level of reading  proficiency prescribed in the  bill. Three years                                                              
allows time  for districts and the  department to get up  to speed                                                              
with  resources,  professional   development,  slightly  different                                                              
curriculum,  and  new  activities   using  science-based  methods.                                                              
After the  three year transition  period, students must  achieve a                                                              
certain level  of proficiency for  promotion to fourth  grade. The                                                              
committee  viewed  a  map  during an  earlier  hearing  of  states                                                              
colored  dark  blue  that  indicated  good  comprehensive  reading                                                              
policies.  That  map  did  not  represent  states  with  the  best                                                              
results;  the  map  only  represented  states  with  comprehensive                                                              
policies. She  has updated  the map with  red dots showing  states                                                              
with  good  comprehensive  policies  and  excellent  results.  She                                                              
asked  for and  received permission  to distribute  copies of  the                                                              
map.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES pointed  out that the map on the third  page had 10                                                              
states  with red  dots.  These states  all  have strong  promotion                                                              
policies. The  chart on  the top  page addresses Senator  Begich's                                                              
concern about  the need  to know the  starting point  when looking                                                              
at achievement  data. For example,  a state that already  has high                                                              
scores may  not experience much  growth. This chart is  an attempt                                                              
to be more transparent.  It reflects scores over  a 16-year period                                                              
for the  National Assessment  of Educational  Progress (NAEP)  for                                                              
fourth  graders eligible  for  free or  reduced  lunch. Those  are                                                              
students who  come from  homes struggling  with poverty  who often                                                              
get left  behind. The national average  gain was 2.5 points.  In a                                                              
six-year  period, the  chart  shows that  Mississippi  shot up  to                                                              
number three from  43rd out of 50 states with a  gain of almost 18                                                              
points. That  18 points  is significant because  that is  how much                                                              
Alaska needs to climb to get to the U.S. national average.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:33:14 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  said score growth  is six times higher  for states                                                              
with  strong  promotion  policies  compared to  states  with  weak                                                              
promotion  policies  for  fourth  graders  eligible  for  free  or                                                              
reduced lunch.  The jurisdiction  with a  strong promotion  policy                                                              
with the  largest growth  was Washington,  D.C., with  an increase                                                              
of 21 points from  2003-2019. The highest growth for  a state with                                                              
a  weak promotion  policy  was only  6.2  points  for New  Mexico.                                                              
States  with a  weak retention  policy  saw an  average growth  of                                                              
1.5, which  is below the  national average  of 2.5. Seven  of nine                                                              
states with  strong promotion  policies improved  faster  than the                                                              
national average.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES said  that people  have  referenced research  that                                                              
shows retention  is bad. She would  say that is true  if something                                                              
like this  bill is not  put in place.  If a retained  student just                                                              
repeats  a grade  and nothing  is done  differently, that  student                                                              
will continue to  struggle. Research that takes  into account what                                                              
the  legislators  are  doing  with this  bill  is  different.  The                                                              
research is  not unequivocally  stating that  retention is  bad. A                                                              
2017  study by  Harvard  University,  Boston University,  and  the                                                              
University  of Konstanz  in Germany  looked at  what happens  with                                                              
intervention  strategies for  a child  who is  not proficient  and                                                              
repeats third  grade. It  involves more  contact hours  focused on                                                              
accelerating that child so that child does achieve.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES reminded  everyone  that the  bill has  exemptions                                                              
for certain  things, so  it only addresses  kids who  could become                                                              
proficient.  When there  is a  strong  promotion policy,  it is  a                                                              
game changer.  Data that states  retention does not work  does not                                                              
apply here.  The applicable  research shows  that if children  are                                                              
not promoted until  proficient, their grade point  averages (GPAs)                                                              
go up. These  children learn more  in all the other  grades. Their                                                              
GPAs in  high school are  higher, and these  students do  not tend                                                              
to drop out.  With the old  way, dropouts went up  with retention.                                                              
If students  are going  to have  higher GPAs  with this  policy in                                                              
place,  there will  be  no increased  chance  that these  students                                                              
will drop out.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:38:27 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  said this is a  whole new system  that legislators                                                              
are fixing  for students.  She suggested that  this start  in year                                                              
2024 to allow adequate  time for districts and schools  to ramp up                                                              
and for  DEED to  implement. This  policy would  not apply  to any                                                              
third  grader  who  did  not  have   the  full  benefit  of  these                                                              
policies. That is  what this amendment does and why  she thinks it                                                              
is the right policy  for students. It will be  helpful to teachers                                                              
to have classrooms filled with many more proficient readers.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS asked for any comments the amendment.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH stated opposition to Amendment 3. He said:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     I admire  the passion of  my colleague in continuing  to                                                                   
     pursue the retention  issue and defining the  strong vs.                                                                   
     weak retention  elements. I think  we need to  just take                                                                   
     a step  back and remember  that no single silver  bullet                                                                   
     [for  education]. That's  been  said  numerous times  by                                                                   
     all of our  professional testifiers. It's  a combination                                                                   
     of   different  factors.   It's  how   we  educate   our                                                                   
     teachers,  it's  whether  we   do  or  don't  have  pre-                                                                   
     kindergarten,  it's  whether we  have  a strong  reading                                                                   
     program  or not. It  might relate  to class size.  There                                                                   
     are a number of reasons.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH  said that there  are a  number of data  points and                                                              
reports  that  significantly  dispute  some  of  the  findings  on                                                              
retention.  He  said  he  would  not debate  that  now  but  would                                                              
address three  factors in the bill  and why Amendment 3  should be                                                              
rejected.  First, SB 6  supports local  control, recognizing  that                                                              
decisions  about retention  are crafted  at the  local level.  The                                                              
superintendents  of  Haines,  Mat-Su,  Anchorage,  Alaska  Gateway                                                              
schools testified  to that. This  amendment would impose  on those                                                              
districts a  mandatory, universal  state policy of  retention. The                                                              
reason  "should"  and  not  "must"  is used  is  to  retain  local                                                              
control.  Second, the  bill, as  written, recognizes  the role  of                                                              
the teacher,  student, and parent  in that discussion  process. SB
6  specifically   outlines   that  the  issue   of  retention   is                                                              
significant  and  should  be  a  discussion  point  between  those                                                              
parties. Third,  the bill includes  universal, voluntary  pre-K to                                                              
give parents  the final  choice about  whether their child  should                                                              
go  into  pre-K or  not.  It  also  provides  parents a  voice  in                                                              
retention  decisions.  Changing  the  language  from  "should"  to                                                              
"must"  removes the  parent from  that  final decision,  including                                                              
homeschool parents.  Currently, homeschool parents can  opt out of                                                              
tests  and assessments,  but  this  amendment, would  remove  that                                                              
option. He said  he opposes [Amendment 3] because it  takes away a                                                              
piece  of  integrity  within  SB  6  that  is  essential  for  its                                                              
successful  development and  application. He  asked the  committee                                                              
reject Amendment 3.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:44:17 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COSTELLO  observed that  retaining  a child  from  social                                                              
promotion  is a serious  issue.  She is encouraged  by the  states                                                              
that have seen  great improvement by doing that.  She is concerned                                                              
about  the  testimony  from  a  district  that  advertised  for  a                                                              
reading  specialist and  waited  for two  years to  find one.  The                                                              
heart of this  legislation is to train teachers  in evidence-based                                                              
teaching  methods that  will work  with students.  The state  does                                                              
not know  where it  will find reading  specialists. The  bill does                                                              
not  require existing  teachers  to  get additional  training.  In                                                              
addition,  the  state  has  a  retention  problem  with  teachers.                                                              
Considering a bill  to keep a child back who cannot  read at grade                                                              
level is  a premature discussion.  The state  does not know  if it                                                              
can fill the  spots for reading specialists required  by the bill.                                                              
At  this point,  she would  be a  no  vote on  the amendment.  Her                                                              
amendments address some  of the issues that would  put Alaska in a                                                              
place to  confidently do something  like this. Now,  districts are                                                              
struggling to  find reading specialists.  The committee  has heard                                                              
that current  classroom teachers  are not  necessarily trained  in                                                              
the  methods  that work.  Those  issues  need  to be  fixed  first                                                              
before putting such a high-stakes statute on the books.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES  said  everyone  wants students  to  succeed.  She                                                              
understands  the local  control argument,  but the  whole bill  is                                                              
dictating  and  mandating policy.  She  said  she relies  on  data                                                              
about what  will work  best for  teachers and students.  Anchorage                                                              
and  Mat-Su School  Districts,  representing  over  40 percent  of                                                              
students  in  the   state,  believe  that  a   strong  proficiency                                                              
promotion  policy will get  the state  where it  needs to  go. She                                                              
recalled that small  districts have said they favor  this approach                                                              
because  in  small  communities  school board  members  are  often                                                              
related  to students.  She said  she  respects Senator  Costello's                                                              
thoughts  that  this  would  be premature,  but  the  language  in                                                              
Sections 19  and 20 would be  implemented after four  years, which                                                              
is ample time to get up to speed and be ready. She said she                                                                     
stands by the amendment.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:49:29 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEVENS stated there is objection and called for a roll                                                                   
call vote.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:49:54 AM                                                                                                                    
A roll  call  vote was  taken. Senator  Hughes voted  in favor  of                                                              
Amendment  3, G.6  and  Senators  Begich, Costello,  Coghill,  and                                                              
Stevens  voted against  it.  Therefore, Amendment  3  failed by  a                                                              
vote of 1 to 4.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS asked Senator Costello to move Amendment 4.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:50:07 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COSTELLO moved to adopt Amendment 4, G.3.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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                          AMENDMENT 4                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED IN THE SENATE                BY SENATOR COSTELLO                                                                   
     TO: CSSSSB 6 (EDC), Draft Version "G"                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 7, following "Development;":                                                                                
          Insert "establishing a teacher retention working                                                                    
     group;"                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page 24, following line 15:                                                                                                
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
        "*  Sec.  22. The  uncodified  law  of the  State  of                                                               
     Alaska is amended by adding a new section to read:                                                                         
          TEACHER RETENTION WORKING GROUP. (a) A teacher                                                                        
     retention  working   group  is  established   to  review                                                                   
     issues  and make  findings  related  to challenges  with                                                                   
     teacher  retention at  public schools  in the state  and                                                                   
     make   recommendations   for  improvement   in   teacher                                                                   
     retention.  Members of the  working group serve  without                                                                   
     compensation.                                                                                                              
          (b)  The teacher retention working group consists                                                                     
     of the following members:                                                                                                  
               (1)  the commissioner of education and early                                                                     
     development or the commissioner's designee;                                                                                
               (2)  two members of the Alaska Council of                                                                        
     School Administrators,  one from  an urban area  and one                                                                   
     from a rural area;                                                                                                         
               (3)  two members of the National Education                                                                       
     Association  - Alaska, one  from an  urban area and  one                                                                   
     from a rural area;                                                                                                         
               (4)  two members of the Association of                                                                           
     Alaska  School Boards, one  from an  urban area and  one                                                                   
     from a rural area; and                                                                                                     
          (5)  the chairs of the legislative committees                                                                         
     having jurisdiction over education.                                                                                        
          (c)  The teacher retention working group shall                                                                        
     select a chair from among its membership.                                                                                  
          (d)  The teacher retention working group shall                                                                        
     meet periodically  and prepare a report of  its findings                                                                   
     and  recommendations.  The  working group  shall  submit                                                                   
     the report to  the governor and to the  senate secretary                                                                   
     and  chief clerk  of the  house  of representatives  for                                                                   
     distribution   to   all   legislators   on   or   before                                                                   
     January 15,  2021,  and  shall  notify  the  legislature                                                                   
     that  the   report  is  available.  The   working  group                                                                   
     expires January 16, 2021."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill section accordingly.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:50:19 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEVENS objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COSTELLO  said Alaska struggles  to retain  teachers. This                                                              
bill provides an  opportunity to look into this issue  and come up                                                              
with  some   recommendations.  Amendment   4  creates   a  teacher                                                              
retention  working   group  comprised   of  the  commissioner   of                                                              
education or  a designee; two members  from the Alaska  Council of                                                              
School  Administrators, one  from  an urban  area and  one from  a                                                              
rural area; two  members from the National  Education Association,                                                              
one from  an urban  area and one  from a  rural area;  two members                                                              
from the  Association of Alaska  School Boards, one from  an urban                                                              
area and one  from a rural area;  and, finally, the chairs  of the                                                              
legislative  committees having  jurisdiction  over education.  The                                                              
amendment  asks the  group to  meet and  prepare a  report of  its                                                              
findings  and recommendations  to  the legislature,  on or  before                                                              
January 15 of next year.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:52:56 AM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:55:06 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BEGICH   moved  to  adopt   conceptual  Amendment   1  to                                                              
Amendment 4:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     On line  17, after the  word "two,"  I add in the  words                                                                   
     "teachers who  are". On line  19, after the  word "two,"                                                                   
     add "superintendents  who are." Last  would be to  add a                                                                   
     new category  of a member of  the Alaska State  Board of                                                                   
     Education,   which  is  missing.   That  addition   will                                                                   
     require renumbering.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES asked  whether "superintendents" should  be on line                                                              
15.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   BEGICH  answered   yes  and   restated  the   conceptual                                                              
amendment:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     My amendment would  be first to amend line  15. It would                                                                   
     say "two superintendents  who are members of  the Alaska                                                                   
     Council  of School  Administrators;  "two teachers",  on                                                                   
     line  17, "who  are members  of  the National  Education                                                                   
     Association"; and  adding a sixth category,  which would                                                                   
     be  a  board  member  of  the   Alaska  State  Board  of                                                                   
     Education.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BEGICH clarified  that teachers  and superintendents  are                                                              
wanted, but not just anyone.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:57:21 AM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:58:04 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEVENS reconvened  the meeting and asked  Senator Begich to                                                              
withdraw his  amendment so  the committee could  go on  to another                                                              
one.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:58:13 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BEGICH withdrew conceptual Amendment 1 to Amendment 4.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BEGICH   moved  to  adopt   conceptual  Amendment   2  to                                                              
Amendment 4, which he read:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     On line 15,  after the word "two,"  add "superintendents                                                                   
     who  are."  On  line  17,  after  the  word  "two,"  add                                                                   
     "teachers  who  are."  And  add a  sixth  category  that                                                                   
     would  be  two members  of  the  Alaska State  Board  of                                                                   
     Education, one  from an urban area and one  from a rural                                                                   
     area.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS asked for Senator Costello's thoughts.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COSTELLO  replied she considered  it a friendly  amendment                                                              
and she would support it.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:59:03 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEVENS called for a roll call vote.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:59:20 AM                                                                                                                    
A roll  call vote was taken.  Senators Begich, Costello,  Coghill,                                                              
Hughes, and  Stevens voted  in favor  of the conceptual  amendment                                                              
to the amendment.  Therefore, conceptual Amendment  2 to Amendment                                                              
4 was adopted by a vote of 5 to 0.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS asked for any comments on Amendment 4, as amended.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH  said the  idea is absolutely  right on  the button                                                              
and consistent with  the governor's State of the  State speech. He                                                              
clarified that his  initial resistance was because  he thought the                                                              
governor  planned  to  unroll  his   own  resolution  regarding  a                                                              
working  group.  He offered  his  view  that  since that  has  not                                                              
happened, the committee should act on it.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:00:10 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  STEVENS called  for a  roll call  vote on  Amendment 4,  as                                                              
amended.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:00:31 AM                                                                                                                   
A roll  call vote was taken.  Senators Begich, Costello,  Coghill,                                                              
Hughes, and  Stevens voted  in favor of  Amendment 4,  as amended.                                                              
Therefore, Amendment  4, as  amended, was adopted  by a vote  of 5                                                              
to 0.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS asked Senator Costello to move the next amendment.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:00:40 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR COSTELLO moved to adopt Amendment 5, G.4.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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                          AMENDMENT 5                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
    OFFERED IN THE SENATE                BY SENATOR COSTELLO                                                                    
     TO CSSSSB 6 (EDC), Draft Version "G"                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Page 12, lines 29 - 30:                                                                                                    
          Delete "meet additional reading instruction                                                                       
     coursework requirements established"                                                                                   
          Insert   "complete   three    semester   hours   of                                                               
     coursework in reading instruction approved"                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 13, lines 2 - 3:                                                                                                      
          Delete "meet additional reading instruction                                                                           
     coursework requirements established"                                                                                       
          Insert   "complete   three    semester   hours   of                                                                   
     coursework in reading instruction approved"                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 24, line 12, following "TRANSITION.":                                                                                 
          Insert "(a)"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 24, following line 15:                                                                                                
          Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                      
          "(b) A person who holds a certificate issued                                                                          
     under  AS 14.20.020 with  an  endorsement in  elementary                                                                   
     education  but  who  has not  completed  the  coursework                                                                   
     required under  sec. 17 of  this Act shall  complete the                                                                   
     three   semester   hours  of   coursework   in   reading                                                                   
     instruction  required  under sec.  17  of this  Act  not                                                                   
     later than  two years after  the effective date  of this                                                                   
     Act."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:00:46 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR STEVENS objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COSTELLO explained  that  the committee  learned that  to                                                              
improve  children's reading  proficiency, Alaska  needs to  employ                                                              
evidence-based,  proven  methods for  how  to teach  reading.  The                                                              
reading specialist  is the  heart of the  legislation since  it is                                                              
important  to get reading  specialists in  classrooms so  students                                                              
can learn to read.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
She  said that  Amendment  5  would  require teachers  to  receive                                                              
three semester  credit hours of  reading instruction to  obtain an                                                              
elementary certificate.  She has been  a classroom teacher  in two                                                              
districts in  the state and worked  with students who  dropped out                                                              
of school.  Teachers have  requirements in  order to retain  their                                                              
certification.  She   recalled  testimony  that   some  elementary                                                              
school  teachers  do  not  have access  to  the  most  up-to-date,                                                              
evidence-based  methods  of  delivering   reading  instruction  to                                                              
students.  Therefore, it  is important  that the  bill require  at                                                              
least  three  semester  hours  of  coursework.  Although  teachers                                                              
currently  choose their  courses  for recertification,  the  state                                                              
must  provide students  with  teachers who  are  trained to  teach                                                              
reading in  methods that  work. Research shows  there are  ways to                                                              
teach reading that are successful.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES  said  she  has  concerns  about  determining  the                                                              
requirement now.  It might not be  enough for what  teachers need.                                                              
Districts or  teachers may have  to cover course costs.  She asked                                                              
if the professional  development that DEED could  prepare might be                                                              
better or accomplish  the same outcome without  the cost. Further,                                                              
DEED  and the  State  Board  of  Education and  Early  Development                                                              
might  decide that  six  credits are  required.  She respects  the                                                              
intent of  Amendment 5 to  make sure teachers receive  specialized                                                              
training,  but she  is not  sure  that the  committee should  make                                                              
that  decision today.  She  expressed  concern about  putting  the                                                              
cost burden  on districts and teachers  when DEED has  expressed a                                                              
willingness   to   shoulder  the   responsibility   of   educating                                                              
teachers.  She  said  she  would be  interested  in  hearing  from                                                              
Senator Begich and the commissioner.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH said  he thought Senator Hughes  was addressing the                                                              
fact  that  DEED on  record  has  expressed  a desire  to  provide                                                              
coursework.  This  amendment  is   potentially  prescriptive.  The                                                              
committee  heard  a  university   presentation,  and  he  was  not                                                              
convinced that  the university has  the capacity to  fully provide                                                              
for  the provisions  in the  bill.  "Hours of  coursework" in  the                                                              
amendment implies a university course.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:07:28 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  BEGICH   moved  to  adopt   conceptual  Amendment   1  to                                                              
Amendment 5. He read:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     On  line  4  "of" be  deleted  and  "or  equivalent"  be                                                                   
     added;  that   on  line  9  "of"  be  deleted   and  "or                                                                   
     equivalent"  be added; and  then on  line 18 "of"  would                                                                   
     be deleted and "or equivalent" be added.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BEGICH  said  those  three  areas  would  cover  what  he                                                              
thought Senator  Hughes was  speaking to and  what he  believes is                                                              
the intent  of the  department.  It would be  consistent with  the                                                              
rigor that Senator Costello seeks.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS  asked Senator  Costello  to  respond and  said  he                                                              
would be willing to call the commissioner up.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COSTELLO replied she considered it a friendly amendment.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:08:39 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR COGHILL objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He said he  wanted to hear from  the commissioner. It  is not just                                                              
the university  that is  going to  certificate people.  The credit                                                              
hours may  narrowly dictate what  can be done with  certification.                                                              
He  said he  wanted to  know if  reading  certifications could  be                                                              
obtained outside  the university and not necessarily  based on the                                                              
state's university.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES said  she appreciates the attempt to  make it work,                                                              
but it  could be from  colleges and  universities from  across the                                                              
country  or  world. The  committee  does  not know  whether  those                                                              
three  hours   by  a  particular   university  will   meet  DEED's                                                              
requirements. It might  not equip teachers at the  level that DEED                                                              
needs. The  amendment to the amendment  would now give  teachers a                                                              
choice that  might not meet the  need. She is still  concerned and                                                              
wondered  whether "approved  by DEED"  would need  to be  included                                                              
somewhere.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS asked the commissioner to comment.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:11:14 AM                                                                                                                   
MICHAEL  JOHNSON,  Ph.D., Commissioner,  Department  of  Education                                                              
and  Early  Development  (DEED),   Juneau,  Alaska,  said  Senator                                                              
Costello is  right to connect teacher  quality and the  quality of                                                              
instruction  with the  success  of this  reading  bill. If  Alaska                                                              
passes  the Alaska  Reads Act  without addressing  the quality  of                                                              
instruction, then it will not be successfully implemented.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He  said  the  conceptual  amendment   to  Amendment  5  does  not                                                              
necessarily connect  the coursework with content.  That coursework                                                              
could  be  reading  strategies that  are  not  evidence-based.  If                                                              
coursework or  professional development  is going to  be mandated,                                                              
it should  be based  on the  science of  reading, as indicated  in                                                              
the bill,  to make  sure the intent  of the  Amendment 5  is fully                                                              
realized.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  JOHNSON  said,  for  example, before  his  time  the                                                              
department  spent a  lot  of money  developing  an Alaska  reading                                                              
course based  on the science of  reading. The department  paid for                                                              
professionals to  create some videos  associated with it.  Some of                                                              
the  people  the committee  heard  testify  were involved  in  the                                                              
development of  the course.  DEED has not  been providing  it, but                                                              
this could  resurrect that course.  There have been  conversations                                                              
around microcredentialing.  Instead  of three university  credits,                                                              
teachers  could   receive  three  different   microcredentials  in                                                              
different aspects of reading.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES said  it  sounds like  the  commissioner has  some                                                              
hesitation  with  the amendment.  Once  "or"  is used  instead  of                                                              
"and" it may be  a legal situation. She asked  the commissioner if                                                              
he would be comfortable  if it said something  like three semester                                                              
hours  of  science-based  reading   instruction  approved  by  the                                                              
department.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  JOHNSON  replied  he  is  a bureaucrat  and  is  not                                                              
elected,  so his opinion  should  not be the  deciding factor.  He                                                              
offered his  view that Amendment  5 is  a great amendment,  with a                                                              
couple  of   modifications   to  broaden   what  would  count   as                                                              
coursework. It is  smart to address the need to  equip teachers to                                                              
teach well,  based on the  science of reading,  but maybe  that is                                                              
not just done  through the university. He suggested  that it could                                                              
allow other types of professional development to count.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR    HUGHES    asked    what    language    would    address                                                              
microcredentialing, for example.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  JOHNSON  said microcredentialing  could  be  another                                                              
way to provide  professional development if the  language is broad                                                              
enough.  The legislature  already  funds professional  development                                                              
in  school districts.  DEED could  work with  school districts  so                                                              
that  the professional  development  days already  in place  could                                                              
count   to  something   equal   to   three  credits.   Those   are                                                              
opportunities  teachers  already  sit  through. He  is  saying  be                                                              
specific enough about  the robustness of the coursework  but leave                                                              
it broad  enough  so that it  can be  delivered to  teachers  in a                                                              
number of ways.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  said he  sees the breadth  of what  the committee                                                              
is trying to do.  Before the amendment, there already  was a "must                                                              
require" with  a regulation cited.  It brings all  stakeholders to                                                              
the table. The  amendment says that one stakeholder  holds all the                                                              
information. He likes  the idea of a regulation  bringing everyone                                                              
to  the  table  with  public  comment.   That  is  different  from                                                              
requiring coursework  with a certain  number of hours. He  said he                                                              
is  probably going  to  default  to the  language  already in  the                                                              
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:19:15 AM                                                                                                                   
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:29:01 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR STEVENS asked Senator Begich to withdraw conceptual                                                                       
Amendment 1 to Amendment 5.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:29:09 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR BEGICH withdrew conceptual Amendment 1 to Amendment 5.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS asked Senator Costello to withdraw Amendment 5.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:29:12 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR COSTELLO withdrew Amendment 5, G.4].                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:29:22 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR STEVENS said this issue needs to be settled before the                                                                    
bill leaves the committee. The committee will try to flesh this                                                                 
out with the commissioner and then meet to move the bill.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[SB 6 was held in committee.]